We were kind of a black eye to the hard-working civilian Italian-Americans. And no knock against either of them, but those type of stereotypes are not good. PENNISI: I would say that shows like Mob Wives and The Jersey Shore would hurt Italians more than anything.
There are plenty of legit Italians who aren’t in a hurry to distance themselves from it all. But the mob thing doesn’t seem to hurt Italian-Americans as much. Tom La Vecchia Courtesy of Tom La VecchiaĪll races and ethnicities in this country have historically worked to separate themselves from certain stereotypes. I think I bring a neutral, real-world point of view to the conversation. Ten years ago, I decided to hang my own shingle as a multi-media digital marketing entrepreneur. LA VECCHIA: Yeah, I’m a Jersey guy, 20 years in corporate. The family, as it’s known, is made up of smaller crews of “associates.” There’s a big gap between an associate and a made man.Īnd Tom, you are literally a Master’s of Business Administration? You have the boss of the family, one underboss and then the captains, made guys, who are the head of different crews. It’s elite and no one can give you a hard time without consequences. From the pop culture standpoint, we assume that you’re basically upper management in an organized crime family. Help us to understand this… You were a made guy. As far as repercussions, I don’t know what’s on their mind. As far as legally, I don’t think I have said anything that probably hasn’t been said already or that the government doesn’t know about. And when they did their homework and realized it was a mistake, it was too late. PENNISI: What had happened was, I was falsely accused of becoming a rat, or an informant, or whatever way you want to phrase it. Right, but how were you able to leave the life without repercussions from the mob or the law? JOHN PENNISI : Well, I’m no longer in the life. One thing we all know is that secrecy is the key to that life. Really the main thing we need to know here is, John, how you’re able to speak so freely about the things you know the things you’ve witnessed. For a new podcasts, the numbers are off the charts. But when we talk, we find a lot of commonality, comparing “the life” to my work in corporate America. John and I are two Italian-American guys. We put our heads together and formed The MBA and the Button Man Podcast. So we recorded what turned into a nine-part series, and organically within a month, we had 100,000 streams. I was getting about 5,000 hits per podcast and this swelled up to like 15,000. I said, ‘I like this guy.’ We chatted, became fast friends and came up with the idea of recording a sit down with a made member of the mob. Then I read Cosa Nostra News one day, where John Pennisi was featured in a three-part series. And I noticed that whenever I had anyone on from that world, it tended to do better than other guests. Organized crime is sort of my personal interest. TOM LA VECCHIA: I started The New Theory Podcast about three years ago.
Men’s Journal: So, a capo of the Lucchese Crime family has a podcast. Together they do a podcast called The MBA and the Button Man all about “our thing.”
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